tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post218689906094979491..comments2024-03-03T01:03:13.313-08:00Comments on O N I G E G E W U R A: Oredein – The Other Side of the Story by Kemi OredeinOlanrewaju Onigegewurahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15896662744309593273noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-89191325120288255432018-06-05T22:31:28.934-07:002018-06-05T22:31:28.934-07:00ExactlyExactlyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607068192119609720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-83506300785087669242018-06-05T22:21:43.830-07:002018-06-05T22:21:43.830-07:00You are very right.You are very right.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607068192119609720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-81826311726262941102017-09-07T12:12:13.076-07:002017-09-07T12:12:13.076-07:00Thank you Onigegewura! Keep up the excellent work....Thank you Onigegewura! Keep up the excellent work. You are an inspiration. More power to excel!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09817638702355492983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-19587734532074847452017-09-07T08:34:49.806-07:002017-09-07T08:34:49.806-07:00The entire thesis and antithesis is completely inf...The entire thesis and antithesis is completely informative, as well eduactive.<br />Kudos to onigegewura for the write-up and Ms Kemi Oredein for her rejoinder.<br />Courts of Law are hardly Courts of Justice. Olorun lo mo nkan t'enikan o mo to pa mo!<br />Secret things absolutely belong to God Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10173582992690379013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-73978709723441745742017-08-21T00:40:01.455-07:002017-08-21T00:40:01.455-07:00Its only God that knows the truth. Judges only dea...Its only God that knows the truth. Judges only deal with the fact, all over the world we have seen people being convicted wrongly and have spent long years of imprisonment before the truth comes out, so we should be very careful in our contribution.Rayjoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16072273665996745607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-78242761102127915422017-08-20T18:21:46.001-07:002017-08-20T18:21:46.001-07:00@Gbolaga,it wasn't even up to 5k.Remember it w...@Gbolaga,it wasn't even up to 5k.Remember it was gonna be shared with the Policemen.So how much would be his share?Ridiculous.<br />Also,i dont believe a man as smart as that woukd have been present where common criminals were,freely exposing his face.<br />This man was a strategist..he is too clever for that.<br />Would you be present at that kind of meeting if you were so famous?Naija Blog Queen Olofofohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983243945873885512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-62285798502077331902017-08-19T21:18:35.461-07:002017-08-19T21:18:35.461-07:00There hardly a second chance to make first impress...There hardly a second chance to make first impression.<br /><br />I share your pain, Ms. Kemi.<br /><br />Ola Marcus@ola_marcusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-19766866532176654162017-08-19T07:21:33.294-07:002017-08-19T07:21:33.294-07:00This is unbelievable. History met the present, and...This is unbelievable. History met the present, and the citizens got the best of the information. Thanks for giving the response the same opportunity and platform. I pray the children will have the will to actually write on their dad, and a principled man worthy of recognition. Growing up, the way you originally presented it was what I knew. Now we have a more complete information which is educational. Thank you.Random Thoughtshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08666237655218737694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-14609852996268588722017-08-18T12:45:27.380-07:002017-08-18T12:45:27.380-07:00I really salute Ms Oredein for such a mature respo...I really salute Ms Oredein for such a mature response despite such a damning accusation. Thank you very much for such a response, great lesson there. history depends on who is narrating, Whenever I remember this story I will always remember this good spirited response. I salute. akin ayandosunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-8816393586823351842017-08-17T09:37:23.018-07:002017-08-17T09:37:23.018-07:00This is a learning process in the history of a nat...This is a learning process in the history of a nation, I have the privilege of watching a lot of criminal and investigative crime put together by FBI and CIA in the United State and have seen how criminal cases are unraveled with technicalities even if foul play was involved with forensics evidences. Nigeria is in pathetic state where we are stuck without any advancement, sometimes things are not the way we think they happened, the judicial system only look at fact presented even if the knows the actual truth behind the matter. My stake is "Should the court be a court of Justice" or " a court kangaroo facts to nail perceived enemy" Ms kemi Oredein you have shown that you are true child to your dad in the face of persecution. KudosDINNEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15913821063102470549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-39335987911261330652017-08-17T02:01:29.670-07:002017-08-17T02:01:29.670-07:00surely, he was a man of means and I agree he could...surely, he was a man of means and I agree he could never have contemplated robbery, but being a politician who had thugs that had worked for him during the political era, he may not be able/willing to reject their criminal adventures when political activities were on since in the mid 60s till 70s when the just ended Biafran War brought about proliferation of weapons. Hence, he might have compromised and welcome his band coming to pay homage to him along with criminal minded policemen, perpetuating crime and riding on his influence in the society.<br /><br />Since late ST Oredein refused to write a memoir on the conspiracy against him, his trial and jail experiences, I think Chief Akinjide (one of the lawyers in the trial) should please help us with the truth on the matter, without fear of favour. This is a serious matter hanging in the balance, between the facts and the truth.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03000143841397035855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-9199787052732134612017-08-17T01:58:22.833-07:002017-08-17T01:58:22.833-07:00Nice one. Very logical and analytical. He was a ma...Nice one. Very logical and analytical. He was a man of means and influence, hence I don't believe he could intend courting robbers or venture into robbery. But being an active politician till suspension of political activities in the mid 60s, with many supporters and thugs of "Wet E" during the Wild Wild West, coupled with the proliferation of arms after the Biafran war, his political thugs who are now jobless might have taken to robbery without his knowledge and in the course of paying homage to him, he might have compromised by helping to cover their track with some corrupt police officers based on his influence. And this might have eventually backfire at him, by they mentioning him as their kingpin even when he might not have never sent them on any robbery operation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03000143841397035855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-26797055644308015352017-08-16T10:33:02.130-07:002017-08-16T10:33:02.130-07:00But you were abusive in your comments on the main ...But you were abusive in your comments on the main story, where you wrote;<br /><br />"the only prayer I have for you and your entire family is so simple *iru e a sele ni idile yin, ejo aimodi ko ni kuro ni idile yin, orisa Ibeji a fi Iya he enu ati owo to fi ko iru eleyi. I owe you no further explanation as I can see you are stucked with your opinion about the issue but in the meantime I dashed you the above to deal with.<br /><br />You should have been gentle and state your own side. Your sister however did better. - S. O. IlesanmiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-81184164687665321452017-08-15T21:02:08.594-07:002017-08-15T21:02:08.594-07:00Nice contributions from commentators on the thread...Nice contributions from commentators on the thread.Facts established is that there wasn't politics as at the time he was convicted. He had the best legal luminary defending him and he lost up to Supreme Court-i also sincerely doubt Kemi story. Late Obafemi Awolowo was a lawyer and i feel strongly that he distanced himself from the case after reviewing the case too. Who also know facts available to him concerning the case as the VP and a powerful man in Gowon's govt? Late Awo is not a man that will abandon his friend(s) when they are facing persecution. For Awolowo not to have intervened, there is much more to it. Let us not twist the fact- In earlier report, it wasn't a sugar factory that was robbed. It was Barclays Bank, now Union Bank. The fact that Kemi is trying to defend his father does not mean that his father is not culpable of the crime. Finally, i hope Kemi and others will allow the sleeping dog lies as their father did after he left prison which he was supposed to spend his entire life. My opinion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10380307694863481981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-65436522613441116482017-08-15T15:56:54.527-07:002017-08-15T15:56:54.527-07:00@Gbolaga bless your reasoning@Gbolaga bless your reasoningAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208815124215265105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-7854774998207829962017-08-15T14:52:16.979-07:002017-08-15T14:52:16.979-07:00If her father bankrolled the AG and after convicti...If her father bankrolled the AG and after conviction TS enemies begged him, it could have been a frame up. I knew the Oredein in my days at Ekotedo, played football with his kids, at race course, watched movies at Queen, Rex and Obisesan hall Cinemas with them, your Dad was set up is all I could think off, he was too blessed or riched to be involved. On swearing with first born by fetish leaders of that time, the blood of those first born could a curse to those families, when Awolowo lost his son, he never cried, who else lost his first born? That is my question.Zents Sowunmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12863952719343791892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-7729728475879980352017-08-15T10:35:38.158-07:002017-08-15T10:35:38.158-07:00I admired the maturity displayed by mrs kemi in he...I admired the maturity displayed by mrs kemi in her response to the publication. I duff my cap for her. There is nothing that is impossible in politics especially when the state is eager and desperate to take one out when the person had become a threat to their survival. I really learnt a lot from both publications. Please keep it upAkosile Olayiwolsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-19714335433994025002017-08-15T07:33:53.317-07:002017-08-15T07:33:53.317-07:00We have seen the climax and the anticlimax, if I m...We have seen the climax and the anticlimax, if I may use these words. I only want Onigegewura to look at it from the Njovens angle.<br />He will see a lot of "wonders", permit me once again, to use the word though it may not be appropriate. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885506532655413596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-49305745030438675472017-08-14T15:39:44.720-07:002017-08-14T15:39:44.720-07:00People die by history, our lives is more than our ...People die by history, our lives is more than our memory, our duty is not to allow it to be in vain, and our lesson is to learn that history may crush us, but we will endure and overcome. <br />In Memory of our dear father ST Oredein.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208815124215265105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-28727842655184139422017-08-14T14:52:33.715-07:002017-08-14T14:52:33.715-07:00Every practicing lawyer knows that the mere fact a...Every practicing lawyer knows that the mere fact alone that a case <br />is either won or lost in court, including the Supreme Court, may not necessarily represent the truth of what actually happened. Justice dispensed by fallible human beings cannot always yeild an infallible outcome. Cases are decided on the basis of facts adduced in evidence, which unveil the truth sometimes, but not all the the time. There are several variables and intrigues at play in a criminal trial of that magnitude. <br /><br />It should be borne in mind that the role of the judge is very much like that of an umpire in a contest rather than a seeker of truth. The retiring President of the UK Supreme Court, Lord Neuberger drove the point home when he stated that:"All fair-minded judges know that they will sometimes believe a liar and disbelieve a honest person, and they will sometimes go wrong on an issue of law". <br /><br />We should therefore not jump to conclusions merely because ST Oredein's conviction was upheld by the Supreme Court. <br /><br />I will also lend a voice of commendation to Ms Oredein for the maturity in her reposte to the earlier publication. It shows that we can disagree without being disagreeable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-3936209926078963402017-08-14T12:17:25.577-07:002017-08-14T12:17:25.577-07:00@Anonymous, it was Justice Okoro Idogwu that beg...@Anonymous, it was Justice Okoro Idogwu that begged FelaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00477185801437530124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-57539146509187188772017-08-14T09:34:48.414-07:002017-08-14T09:34:48.414-07:00Whether or not the late man was framed up, the who...Whether or not the late man was framed up, the whole episode is now history. It is now between the man and his God with whom he has his judgment like every one of us will after demise. If what Kemi has said is anything to go by,the family can still approach the Government for a post humous State pardon. And I am sure that if the facts are convincing the State will do something. As for the police officers involved, the story has given further insight into the spate of ever increasing level of Very serious crimes in Nigeria such as kidnapping, human trafficking, murder, ritual killings and drugs. The case of Edede in the 70s and the Lawrence Anini saga in the then Bendel in State in 1986 which a DSP was found complicit, just like the Evans saga and the Ozubulu 'Bishop' occasioning an attack on a church wherein the Governor, the Commissioner of Police and the traditional ruler are alleged to have had knowledge of the root of the problem tells much about the dangers we live with in our time. May God have mercy on us. Amen. Johnson O. Esezoobonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-41226015030513893432017-08-14T08:20:21.840-07:002017-08-14T08:20:21.840-07:00So many things happen in life that are beyond ordi...So many things happen in life that are beyond ordinary. Why will the rich steal to have more riches? Why will a man with many wives rape another man's wife? Why will a wealthy man conspire with armed robbers to rob a company where he was a major shareholder and Director?<br /><br />The more you look, as they say, the less you will see. Could the trial have been an elongation of the persecution of Awo's people? There are many things we do not know. <br /><br />Nevertheless, I'm proud of M/S Kemi Oredein who despite all odds stood to be counted for her father. I know many children would not dare do that. As you promise, it will do your father's memory well for you to write the account of what happened or rather what your father and his Associates told you before their departure. It would have been better for your father to do it himself but with you alive, it is never too late.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01045399409217373913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-26302028701453015132017-08-14T06:21:40.097-07:002017-08-14T06:21:40.097-07:00Ori e lo daru. Omo ale jatijati o ni Ku ireOri e lo daru. Omo ale jatijati o ni Ku ireAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208815124215265105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1078686167730068318.post-82810158084175762282017-08-14T06:13:39.787-07:002017-08-14T06:13:39.787-07:00ST had every opportunity in this world to set the ...ST had every opportunity in this world to set the record straight before he died, yet he did not avail himself of that golden opportunity. Anonynoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05765263636506849949noreply@blogger.com